А report about the impact of escalation of conflict in Ukraine and an interview of the Ambassador to Ukraine Mr Mykola Kulinich. Watch from the 24:20 min mark
Ukraine is preparing to evacuate the residents of Adviivka and says 8,000 a day may be moved to safer places.
But as Ukrainian ambassador to Australia Dr Mykola Kulinich tells me, there cannot be any movement of people until there is a ceasefire.
He warns of a possible catastrophe if the fighting does not end, not from the shells and bullets, but the extreme cold.
Dr Kulinich says the current conflict is about gaining the upper hand ahead of future negotiations.
He wants Australia to exert as much pressure on the Russian Government as possible to stop the fighting.
He also has a dire warning. Most serious conflicts start as something relatively small and can spiral out of control.
He fears the current violence could be a precursor to something much worse.
There is a war in the middle of Europe right now, he reminds us.
It is small, it is relatively contained. But it could spread by accident or design. And even far away Australia may not be immune to what could come next.